On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 7:28 AM Daniel Pocock <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Sending this to another list is not the solution. Langhoff unleashed > this monster on this list and it is time for people to show some respect Of all the players in this saga, it turns out that I am the unleasher of monsters? With apologies for the whole list for extending this thread and topic, couple facts - I happen to be subscribed to debian-devel, LWN and fedora-devel, with good friends in both Debian and Fedora communities. None of my good friends seem to have aggrieved Daniel - that I know of. - I observed the unfortunate discussions in debian-devel and articles in LWN - Mentioned it here, when Daniel brought his grievances here. My initial email was unfortunate, and I apologized _and that's the extent of it_. Honestly, I think that Daniel may well have reasons for his original grievance. But this original grievance seems to be used to justify a lot of stuff that is -- IMHO -- just not ok and keeps escalating and expanding across development communities. AIUI, several people have suggested to Daniel to walk away, take some time off... I can't say I disagree with those recommendations. This will be my last post on this topic. Thank you all for your patience. m -- martin.langhoff@xxxxxxxxx - ask interesting questions ~ http://linkedin.com/in/martinlanghoff - don't be distracted ~ http://github.com/martin-langhoff by shiny stuff _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx