Am 09.11.19 um 10:12 schrieb Nicolas Mailhot via devel: > That’s why DoH is intrinsically centralized and rotten to the core. > > DoH supporters are perfectly happy with a world where there is no > standard for delegation. And if there is no standard, classical network > effects will favor the biggest actor by default. A classic "Chicken & Egg" problem. You can only support it, if enough differen, free, reliable DoT/H Servers are out there, which will only come, when they are requested. In other words: someone has to make a step, and mozilla did it. A plan: Get NetworkManager a modul to manage DNS better: Option Page 1: - receive DNS via DHCP ( default ) - use DNS over TLS - use DNS over HTTPS - use system software proxy to manage DNS for you. Option Page " use DNS over TLS" - receive list of available DNS from ... and randomly autoselect - use a fixed list of servers Option Page " use DNS over HHTPS" - receive list of available DNS from ... and randomly autoselect - use a fixed list of servers Option Page " use system software proxy" - use nscd - use dnssec-trigger - use ... .. whatever Fedora has to offer This way, anyone can easily configure their prefered way, and RH PR department can write a nice "we support encrypted DNS over a variose number of protocols" news. Anyone who wants his proxy software in this proxy list, names his default port/socket and a tool to be called for configuration. In addition "someone" ( now look suspicious to you rh contact ) has to make webservice to give out trusted DO* Serverlists in a i.e. Json format with some additional hints about ( name of service, country it's laws it's following, commercial or not etc ) and sign that with a fedora/rh key, so we can trust the list. what do you all think? best regards, Marius _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx