On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:10 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 06:55:45PM +0100, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > That's my thinking, too. Having releases supported for 7 months is not > > really worth it, let's rather switch to a stable rolling release for > > those who want the latest and greatest. LTS will be there for the rest. > > And the rolling release version can also serve as a stream of apps for > > LTS releases. We can build the latest Firefox with the latest stable > > Fedora bits and provide it on LTS releases as a flatpak. A single build > > for all releases. The model may actually even be easier for > > maintainers. > > I think the very, very high fast rate I'm seeing in the mirror stats (see > https://twitter.com/mattdm/status/1063058469903839232) recently supports the > idea of a rolling release to cater to a lot of our audience. I wouldn't > necessarily have said that three years ago -- look at the upgrade curve for > f23 at the left side of the graph. > I'd argue that the fast upgrade rate to fedora 29 indicates that we - as a distro - are doing things right, and make upgrades pain- and fearless (which is what matters). There will always be people who don't care to upgrade. The only solution I see for this situation is something like Silverblue with automatic updates and upgrades on reboot. Also, I don't really understand where this need for a "fedora LTS" comes from. I've always thought of RHEL / CentOS as filling that role. I agree that there could probably be more collaboration between these three projects (especially CentOS and fedora), but trying to introduce "fedora LTS", basically as a competitor to CentOS - won't help. Additionally, fedora explicitly targets a rather specific audience ("developers and makers of all kinds"). Trying to "grow" fedora by making it less appealing to its current core audience (which most of the proposals I read in this thread would seem to do), seems misguided. Just my 2¢. Fabio > -- > Matthew Miller > <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Fedora Project Leader > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
