Hi everyone! Let's talk about something new and exciting. Since its first release fifteen years ago, Fedora has had a 13-month lifecycle (give or take). That works awesomely for many cases (like, hey, we're all here), but not for everyone. Let's talk about how we might address some of the users and use cases we're missing out on. When I talk to people about this, I often get "hey, you should do LTS or go to rolling releases.” As I've said before, on the surface that's a weird thing to say, since the actual user impact of those two different things is mostly _opposite_. So, digging in, it often really means "I don't want the pain and fear of big OS upgrades". We've addressed that in several ways: first, making upgrades better. (Thanks everyone who has worked on that.) A Fedora release-to-release update is normally not much more trouble than you might get some random Tuesday with a rolling release. Second, we have some things like Fedora Atomic Host and upcoming Fedora CoreOS and IoT which both implement a rolling stream on top of the Fedora release base. And finally, there's the coming-someday plans for gating Rawhide, making that a better proposition for people who really want to live on the edge. But there are some good cases for a longer lifecycle. For one thing, this has been a really big blocker for getting Fedora shipped on hardware. Second, there are people who really could be happily running Fedora but since we don't check the tickbox, they don't even look at us seriously. I'd love to change these things. To do that, we need something that lasts for 36-48 months. So, what would this look like? I have some ideas, but, really, there are many possibilities. That's what this thread is for. Let's figure it out. How would we structure repositories? How would we make sure we're not overworked? How would we balance this with getting people new stuff fast as well? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx