-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Sat, 2017-08-26 at 15:13 +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Matthew Miller [25/08/2017 16:23] : > > > > From a user perspective, > > https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/ works very well for me > > (and > > it's _way_ faster than it was several years ago). > > I would agree if it wasn't for packages' issue #286 > > I suspect that packages uses pkgdb to get the information it displays > so arguing that the former can replace the latter after its > retirement > seems misguided. > > > From a > > contributor > > perspective, https://src.fedoraproject.org/ seems adequate if not > > yet > > perfect. The ability to display readme files _alone_ seems like a > > big > > step forward. It'd be nice to have better search and browsing, but > > the > > original pkgdb web UI wasn't great there _either_. > > It's still has a number of critical issues (#6208 is the biggest one > that comes to me). > > I think Neal's point is that we knew this was coming. We knew that > pkgdb retirement would be half-baked before it happenned. We even > discussed it on this very list. Couldn't we have delayed the pkgdb > retirement until it had less issues? Can we learn from this change > and ensure future changes are handled better? I share most of Neal's feelings, I don't particularly think that replacing pkgdb with pagure was bad idea even it was not completely ready. We are not able to predict everything what would break if we change / replace piece X. puiterwijk, pingou and others are very responsive and fixing every issues are coming up, this is awesome! While I don't like how modularity does things and stuff like that, I try to help as much as I can.. What I don't like and get frustrated is that modularity is forced a lot and we get huge changes in infrastructure and a lot of other pieces, but when we ask for way smaller changes (supporting rich dependencies), everyone hides (definitely there are exceptions)... For more than half year we are trying to get answers, Rust Packaging got delayed by 2 releases already .. And only now, something is starting to happen (after Flock). That's my main frustration with modularity (it can be replaced with anything else what would be forced so much in Fedora while ignoring other stuff). What I am trying to say, doing changes (even they are not fully prepared) is fine, but completely ignoring people who want to make some changes which affect infrastructure while doing even bigger and less prepared changes is bad. > > Emmanuel > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - -- - -Igor Gnatenko -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEhLFO09aHZVqO+CM6aVcUvRu8X0wFAlmhgPgACgkQaVcUvRu8 X0w3BBAAhSwbCN67O87K6bhmt96Do2hZ7YY6uaue4i+C4g5b2m+2Xf7A8m3XL9C1 xfR/RZMJnar+a1VHhCbbGROZmLTElgKDsWZOAaCFYIdAkOLbuRoUkM/EfMqE0OUr FjjHH7Uyuxye7KrbiUihjETw0yzVeX3tDWWusgla35PA+RqQe1Z5E+VM6DvL4pFY 953LIwfoA+ReMDKKpwFJatVgTyzNHjx+Co1xpMOIgrgnkkCFWwIK5JYkvRQo31uh zkb7c1Li5Up6wh0lW04morvqp8FVq2G6O/cN/RihT1n8jvztCFP7kYFmRaVNtOKW YwqS6hB+xY5ZogjkmdVkZLDApzEAD/NU4pE/IOhwChTmUFqXSktlveKQHSmS4aLa JwJrHjFpVZ3lxHxDu8ctahfmjMV2XpmaeE8H0d/0cq3y/UhI7WwFnAByOFPYWTwe aGJ1zB9spS+JywwGXs1l5KufQ8l0SSbqELHwglUg2LnqQsRoJOJvh72GfcS2rFCm GJn93ZUNkmVvAghcp9GxfUh3x8nzv4e9mFxTHD4D4duOotC/ggaqHulAJ4vQdXOx Vg+rubv0GFt1tYDeR4JyaC05ZjbB5RSgCRnQIdA9M6J3vvEvG7vPaF9cZyyPLugK xBgghEKHhn8ok72nnzHMlY6gCk+czwaruLA9AdOVUmHkmUEsfcg= =240I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
