Re: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks

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"We" in this case is me, my Red Hat colleagues working on GNOME, Fedora Workstation, upstream developers involved in Fedora Workstation and upstream developers who are not involved in Fedora, usually because of answers like this.

I'm also fine with you leaving. In fact, that's probably a request I made to a number of Fedora decision makers.

This has nothing to do with the apparent technical discussion and everything to do with the tone and vocabulary used. If you think we're that incompetent, or full of ourselves, then please, do leave, and show us how great you and your ideas are because I'm not, and we are not, going anywhere.

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> 
> Am 17.07.2017 um 18:58 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
> >> 1. make flatpacked sofware behave like rpms in all the rpm-centric
> >> management
> >> tools, and remove the rpm layer only when everyone *in* *the* *Fedora*
> >> *universe* agrees it is not needed anymore and the replacements are
> >> better.
> >> 2. make a wayland, not a gnome 3.0
> > 
> > However we end up doing it, I think it'd be better if we could do it
> > without
> > you, whatever it is you do for Fedora. We, and certainly I, don't want this
> > level of toxicity and utter malfeasance on a mailing-list that I'm supposed
> > to be subscribed to.
> > 
> > Please, do leave, so you don't have to endure our apparent incompetence
> 
> who you you think you are?
> 
> that "we" includes the userbase GNOME centric people tend to forget and
> if you are not careful enough the "we" could remain some people making a
> distribution for their own usecase without a userbase
> 
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