Re: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks

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----- Original Message -----
> >  There's a
> > burning the ships sort of appeal in that approach,
> 
> Actually, the correct analogy would be "burning platform" (and we all know
> how well that ended).
> 
> Flatpacks are an unproven tech that can still crash and burn in the market.
> 
> Even if it eventually succeeds crash-landing it in Fedora while half the
> security and management tools are lacking is a great way for the
> distribution to get an awful reputation, while others will rip the fruits of
> this work some years later.
> 
> It would be nice, for once, if the desktop team could integrate its latest
> idea in the distribution, and remove deprecated parts once the replacements
> are mature, instead of forcing on everyone half-assed software, with half
> the bits missing, no alternatives, and years of bad blood while they insist
> it is good enough and users are wrong to expect working workflows (yay for
> echo chamber effects and devs agreeing with themselves they are right but
> persecuted).
> 
> ie:
> 1. make flatpacked sofware behave like rpms in all the rpm-centric management
> tools, and remove the rpm layer only when everyone *in* *the* *Fedora*
> *universe* agrees it is not needed anymore and the replacements are better.
> 2. make a wayland, not a gnome 3.0

However we end up doing it, I think it'd be better if we could do it without
you, whatever it is you do for Fedora. We, and certainly I, don't want this
level of toxicity and utter malfeasance on a mailing-list that I'm supposed
to be subscribed to.

Please, do leave, so you don't have to endure our apparent incompetence.
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