>> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:34:20AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> One thing I forgot to mention in my original reply to jwb (it was >> >> getting long) is that there's a conundrum that applies quite >> >> specifically to Mac support, and it's this: there are quite a lot of >> >> people who want to run Fedora on Macs (seemingly, at least) but very >> >> few in a position to test installs for new releases. >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I think this is a big problem. >> > If we have a "class" of users that have special needs (aka: very >> > specific hardware/software/bios/...) and they never tests things, I see >> > this more as their problem than other people problem. >> >> I see it as everyone's problem. A bad user experience for an entire >> class of users is not good for the project as a whole. I don't see the >> them and us > > Hi, > > I see the "them and us" only in the sense that the people outside that > class can not perform testing and therefore the number of tester is very > limited. > Same can apply to other kind of setup that have very specific hardware > compatibilities (ie: secondary arch). I think you mean Alternate Architectures. We have primary and secondary release artifacts which can be any architecture including x86_64. > Obviously if a company wants to test and support this actively can do so, > but imho this burden should not be on the wider community. Often those companies also bring a broad set of resources that benefit the rest of the community on x86_64 as much, or often even more than the benefit they get. You might not be aware but the alternate architectures and their associated "companies" contribute a lot of resources (both human and other) to Fedora to improve it as a whole. Like everything else in a community it's give and take. >> I generally haven't seen that trend. The mac users I know often keep >> their devices as long as they are usable as they cost so much or they >> upgrade every time there's a new model and sell the old one ASAP to >> recoup some of the costs. For corp use this is often different but >> then it is with all laptops. > > This is true. Often Mac users that upgrade frequently sell their old Macs, > while this is less common in the PC world. > > Best, > Fale > -- > Fabio Alessandro Locati > Red Hat - Senior Consultant > > PGP Fingerprint: E815 3C49 2A8D FD8B 1CBD BC85 FDB3 DF20 B2DC 9C1B > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
