Re: finish retirement of sysvinit-only packages Re: Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-07-29)

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On Qua, 2016-08-03 at 00:11 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
> <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > On 08/02/2016 12:25 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > It's a burden, usually solved by ignoring one or the other. Since
> > > systemd is always incompatible and always will be incompatible
> > > with
> > > anything but relatively modern Linux distrubitutions, guess which
> > > packages never get ported to non-Linux systems.
> > 
> > Actually in many cases upstreams that are targeting different types
> > of *nix
> > dont ship initscripts et all but instead have downstream ship those
> > instead
> > as an upstream policy ( we had few rejection of type unit files
> > from
> > upstream based on that ) so I'm unsure how much of a burden that
> > really is.

But why you don't maintain or propose (via bugzilla) systemd
configuration for the 18 packages that left ? , why I have to learn to
configure systemd daemon to maintain one package ? when I don't want
to, I don't have time for that, when you certainly do it better. etc
etc. 
Other reason that I ask you to do it, I think we waste much less time
with this discussions.  

> The first one that leaps to mind as publishing init scripts in their
> main source code, and no support for systemd,  is OpenSSH. That's
> fairly understandable the base operating system for OpenSSH is
> OpenBSD.
> 
> The second critical daemon that provides SysV init scripts and
> includes no systemd support in the upstream source code is httpd.
> 
> Do I really need to dig further?


#rpm -q httpd -l | grep -P "system|legacy"
/etc/httpd/conf.modules.d/00-systemd.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/htcacheclean.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/httpd.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/httpd.service.d
/usr/lib/systemd/system/httpd.socket
/usr/lib/systemd/system/httpd.socket.d
/usr/lib64/httpd/modules/mod_systemd.so
/usr/libexec/initscripts/legacy-actions/httpd
/usr/libexec/initscripts/legacy-actions/httpd/configtest
/usr/libexec/initscripts/legacy-actions/httpd/graceful

#rpm -q openssh-server -l | grep -P "system|legacy"
/usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd-keygen.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd.socket
/usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd@.service


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