On Qua, 2016-08-03 at 00:11 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson > <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On 08/02/2016 12:25 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > > > > > It's a burden, usually solved by ignoring one or the other. Since > > > systemd is always incompatible and always will be incompatible > > > with > > > anything but relatively modern Linux distrubitutions, guess which > > > packages never get ported to non-Linux systems. > > > > Actually in many cases upstreams that are targeting different types > > of *nix > > dont ship initscripts et all but instead have downstream ship those > > instead > > as an upstream policy ( we had few rejection of type unit files > > from > > upstream based on that ) so I'm unsure how much of a burden that > > really is. But why you don't maintain or propose (via bugzilla) systemd configuration for the 18 packages that left ? , why I have to learn to configure systemd daemon to maintain one package ? when I don't want to, I don't have time for that, when you certainly do it better. etc etc. Other reason that I ask you to do it, I think we waste much less time with this discussions. > The first one that leaps to mind as publishing init scripts in their > main source code, and no support for systemd, is OpenSSH. That's > fairly understandable the base operating system for OpenSSH is > OpenBSD. > > The second critical daemon that provides SysV init scripts and > includes no systemd support in the upstream source code is httpd. > > Do I really need to dig further? #rpm -q httpd -l | grep -P "system|legacy" /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d/00-systemd.conf /usr/lib/systemd/system/htcacheclean.service /usr/lib/systemd/system/httpd.service /usr/lib/systemd/system/httpd.service.d /usr/lib/systemd/system/httpd.socket /usr/lib/systemd/system/httpd.socket.d /usr/lib64/httpd/modules/mod_systemd.so /usr/libexec/initscripts/legacy-actions/httpd /usr/libexec/initscripts/legacy-actions/httpd/configtest /usr/libexec/initscripts/legacy-actions/httpd/graceful #rpm -q openssh-server -l | grep -P "system|legacy" /usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd-keygen.service /usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service /usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd.socket /usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd@.service > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject > .org -- Sérgio M. B. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx