Re: Please stop modifying other people's packages without coordinating with them first

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On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 8:09 AM, Dan Horák <dan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:57:39 +0100
> Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 15-02-16 13:47, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> > While I'm still very much on the fence about this, moving to pagure
>> > for dist-git might very much help in these situations.  Being able
>> > to send a pull request with your changes easily means you've fixed
>> > it, the maintainer just needs to pull it in.  All of the
>> > information is contained within that pull request.  It would seem
>> > to solve many of our communication issues.
>>
>> I do not think that adding a pull-req to the process of proven
>> packager commits is really helpful. To me this feels like adding
>> unnecessary red-tape in a response to one are two cases where a
>> provenpackager commit was not 100% to the liking of the maintainer.
>>
>> How many proven packager commits do we have a day / a week ? And how
>> much of those lead to "raised eyebrows" of the official package
>> maintainer ?
>>
>> I think that with things like broken deps due to soname bumps +
>> mass-rebuild failures having proven=packagers help out is 99.9%
>> of the time very welcome help. I certainly always value such help
>> with my packages.
>>
>> Both as a maintainer (having to respond to pull-reqs means extra work)
>> and as a proven packager I'm not in favor of adding this extra
>> red-tape.
>>
>> Note that it does not matter how easy you make this, it is still more
>> work then the current process for both the proven-packager and the
>> maintainer. And no it is not just 5 seconds with a good gui, that
>> totally discounts the mental load of needing to do another task
>> and loosing concentration / breaking your work flow because of those
>> 5 seconds.
>
> dunno if Josh means the pull requests to be mandatory, but they would
> add a nice option how to provide fixes for package maintainers from
> non-proven packagers. A review of the suggested changes can be useful
> and will be easier than patch attached in bugzilla.

Yes, this is true as well.

josh
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