On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Am 02.12.2015 um 21:16 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: >> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>> >>> That's a matter of preference. If I have a newer kernel version >>> installed that doesn't actually work, I want the older kernel I _just_ >>> installed to be the default and top entry so my machine boots to >>> something I can use. This happens often when people try rawhide -rcX >>> kernels to test something. >>> >>> Fixing this might be better served by filing an RFE for grubby to >>> change the preference order. >> >> >> Or file an RFE for grub2 to have an option to use the file timestamps >> instead of the version for the sort order > > > breaking news: file timestamps of packages are independent of the install > time so this can't work - any attributes like timestamp, owner, permision > are part of the package for good reasons (rkhunter as example compares them > with the rpm database) Can you please try to reduce your level of sarcasm on the list? It's especially irritating when you're simultaneously sarcastic and factually incorrect: $ stat /boot/vmlinuz-4.2.6-301.fc23.x86_64 File: ‘/boot/vmlinuz-4.2.6-301.fc23.x86_64’ Size: 5980440 Blocks: 11688 IO Block: 4096 regular file Device: 10302h/66306d Inode: 13 Links: 1 Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root) Context: system_u:object_r:modules_object_t:s0 Access: 2015-11-20 14:35:27.000000000 -0800 Modify: 2015-11-20 14:35:27.000000000 -0800 Change: 2015-11-29 13:02:59.410471082 -0800 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Note the ctime Birth: - For something more reliable, grub2-mkconfig for similar could do something like: $ rpm -qf /boot/vmlinuz-4.2.6-301.fc2-queryformat '%{installtime}\n' with some appropriate provision for packages that don't come from RPM in the first place. For human readability: $ rpm -qf /boot/vmlinuz-4.2.6-301.fc23.x86_64 --queryformat '%{installtime:date}\n' Sun 29 Nov 2015 01:01:52 PM PST Note that this is suspiciously similar to ctime above. --Andy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx