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On 09/14/2015 02:18 PM, Stephen
Gallagher wrote:
Also, I'd like to be clear on this: whatever the outcome of this discussion, I want Fedora packagers to continue to work with their packages and upstreams to unbundle as much as possible. I think that this *does* lead to significant improvements in security, resources and maintenance. However, I also feel that making it a barrier to entry is actively harming our ability to bring in new software and new package maintainers. At which point I would argue that mandatory unbundling is unhealthy for the Fedora *Project* while it is clearly healthy for the Fedora *Operating System*. I would argue that we should not be packaging and shipping bundled components ourselves et all ( whatever they might be called, which effectively makes unbundling mandatory ) due to the increased load on the project as whole maintaining such bundles. From patching, to bugs to license issue no matter how you look at it, with or without exceptions bundles will be wasting resources in the project, resources we dont have. And FYI during what FC5 or FC6 we made it easier for individuals to add components to the distribution and take hard good look at what that has got us. Fedora has grown so fat it's collapsing under it's own weight. Based on the resources we have, people seriously need to start asking themselves do we want Fedora to be shipping every know component in the universe chasing end users sitting at the end of the rainbow? Is making it easier to add components to the distribution actually worth it and a good thing? Anyway exceptions or not an clear cut policy surrounding bundles is necessary which outlines and explains to the maintainer of the bundle that he just signed himself up and is responsible to maintain the entire components that make up that bundle otherwise you have effectively added the load on already existing maintainers, an load they themselves did not sign themselves up to do. ( it's one thing maintaining a component in the distribution and it's another having to in addition to that maintain it in all bundled components as well ) JBG |
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