On Fri, 2015-09-11 at 19:32 +0000, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > On 09/11/2015 07:25 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > In a world where bundling was allowed, the package would likely > > have > > been approved on initial review; the only significant issues found > > in > > review were bundling-related. There are a couple of trivial issues > > noted in #c7, but those would have been literally 10-second fixes. > > Would have, could have, should have. . . > > So let's play that game ;) > > If all the related review request had been completed in timely > fashion > he would have never given up on un-bundling it. > > I'm not saying you are wrong but I'm not saying that you are > entirely > correct in your assumption either what I'm saying is that there are > multiple factors at play here. OK, so let's talk about review requests! Clearly, we have more review requests than we can handle, hence there's a giant backlog, hence general sadness. How many of those review requests, do you think, are for tiny bundled libraries that will probably only ever be used by at most two packages (probably only one)? Wouldn't we have much less of a backlog if we didn't have to do all those unbundling requests? ;) Again, I don't actually think the answer here is "screw it, let's bundle everything" - but I do believe it's reasonable to say that the strict no-bundling policy is causing a lot of fairly pointless work (I'm really not sure unbundling tiny crappy PHP 'libraries' that have no sane upstream maintenance policy in any case has ever actually benefitted anyone, anywhere, very much), and there are definitely cases where it is a primary cause of people abandoning review requests or simply not bothering to submit them because the required unbundling would be way too much work to be worthwhile. There is a *genuine non- zero cost* to the unbundling policy, which is all the OP was suggesting. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct