On Fri, 2015-09-11 at 20:46 +0000, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > On 09/11/2015 08:31 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > We certainly agree on that. > > > > > > which has already been > > > > answered by the board. > > > > ( people will first debate where to draw the line if that > > > > discussion > > > > wont be killed in birth but in the end they end up with the > > > > same > > > > question as has already been answered ) > > Eh, I'm not sure it's really been fully addressed, and even if it > > has, > > if enough people feel like the topic needs revisiting, it seems > > wise > > to revisit it. > > As far as I can tell these are the same people as last time which > are > not satisfied with the outcome of that decision. > > And you know as well as I do that people pursuing this will start > discussing where to draw the line, with the end being why stop > there? > which in turn will lead to having to answer same question again ( > what > the third time, this time around? ). > > Now if nothing new is being added to the previous discussions ( > which I > have yet to see the case for ) and the council would for some reason > approve, and in doing so looking extremely suspicions if that would > be > the case, people would most likely want community wide vote based on > the > grounds that the changes are being made to the foundation of the > project, those same foundations which led them to participate in the > first place. > > Now let's wait and see in which direction the discussion will take. > Just to be clear: unbundling is not foundational (as I noted in my initial post). It does not *directly* apply to any of our Foundations[1]. Now, it can be argued that it *does* support our mission[2] from certain perspectives and so we have to keep that in mind. Also, I'd like to be clear on this: whatever the outcome of this discussion, I want Fedora packagers to continue to work with their packages and upstreams to unbundle as much as possible. I think that this *does* lead to significant improvements in security, resources and maintenance. However, I also feel that making it a barrier to entry is actively harming our ability to bring in new software and new package maintainers. At which point I would argue that mandatory unbundling is unhealthy for the Fedora *Project* while it is clearly healthy for the Fedora *Operating System*. I hope this makes my stance on the situation a little more clear. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundations [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview#Our_Mission
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