On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 01:25:47PM -0700, Pete Travis wrote: > On Dec 9, 2014 12:55 PM, "Reindl Harald" <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > Am 09.12.2014 um 20:51 schrieb Pete Travis: > > > >> Hmm... a whitelist of things that are allowed to ask for firewall > >> accommodation doesn't help me develop new applications at all. And > >> you're jumping to a really high level UI thing and just sort of hand > >> waving over the mechanism needed to make it all work. Assigning > >> different networks to zones is a different problem compared to a program > >> asking for a port. > > > > > > don't get me wrong but if it is too much asked for you to open a firewall > port i don't want to have your network-aware new application on my machines > or any machine working in networks i am responsible for > > > > a prerequisite for develop network applications is understanding of > network basics and if your application don't use networking you are not > affected > > > > > > -- > > > > Lets say I do have an understanding of network basics, just for the sake of > argument. I share my application with you. The application is intended to > listen on the network, you know this and want the application for that > purpose. You run the application, it tries to listen to a network port. > Magick, prayers, and the ghost of Charles Babbage - or maybe some > hypothetical dbus service- does *something* to find out if you really > wanted that. You did. Neither one of us is is made incompetent by the > convenience. > > Here's the thing: firewalld will let this happen. at here is a dbus > interface. Thomas has proven more than willing to accommodate RFEs. Nobody > is asking for changes that would solve the problem of frustrated users or > developers encountering firewall restrictions. The GNOME folks don't want > the UX compromise of rote-clicked dialogs. Nobody else is suggesting an > alternative implementation that actually *improves* the Fedora experience. > Ideas get more traction than complaints. Gnome doesn't want a dialog. What other choice is there then besides 1) remove firewall? Because any other choice basically a convoluted equivalent to #1. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
