On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Jared K. Smith <jsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> >> if *that* is what is supposed to make DNF faster it's just a lie > > > This is not the only thing that DNF does differently to try to make package > installations and updates go faster (or appear to go faster). Calling the > developers liers doesn't help the situation any. > >> >> if i am really interested in updates now i do "yum clean metadata && yum >> upgrade" >> for many years simply because you don't know how accurat you metadata are > > > Sure, but you have to understand -- you're a power user. You know enough to > do this in yum for your particular use case, which means you probably know > enough to change the DNF settings with regards to cron-based metadata > retrieval. What I think you're missing (and frankly, seem to miss in the > lot of fedora-devel discussions you take part in) is that Fedora isn't > engineered around *your* particular needs. We do things mostly by > consensus, and aim to make it a pleasant experience for the *average* user > (or whatever we have in the Fedora community that approximates an average > user), and not just for power users with very specific needs and > requirements. > > Whether you like it or not, one of the most common complaints about yum > (especially from people coming from another package management system) is > that it seems slow because of the necessity to download the metadata. The > DNF developers -- in trying to address this common complaint -- had solved > it by handling metadata in a different way. They've also added settings so > that power users like you and I can tune it to better fit our particular > needs. > >> >> >> and *no* traffic is not cheap everywhere, by far not > > > I probably understand this better than a lot of people on this list, as I've > been on a bandwidth-limited connection for the past nine years. Only in the > past month have I been able to get high speed internet in my home that > wasn't limited to a few gigabytes per month. So yes, I completely > understand that traffic isn't cheap (or fast) everywhere. It should be at least smart enough to not do it on mobile broadband (like packagekit does). -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
