On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 10:56 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 18.7.2013 10:42, Mathieu Bridon napsal(a): > > On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 10:34 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> Dne 18.7.2013 01:02, Lennart Poettering napsal(a): > >>> So, maybe, instead of dropping the "Provides syslog" thing from > >>> journald, maybe we should add an explicit "syslog-files" dependency (or > >>> something named like that) and then make the classic syslog > >>> implementations provide that and the packages which actually need > >>> /var/log/messages pull that it? > >>> > >>> Lennart > >>> > >> So why there are files in /var/log and there is not obvious package, > >> which creates them (unless you want to guess by name)? Shouldn't all > >> package, which creates log in /var/log have some virtual provide to make > >> it obvious? Why not do it properly/consistently? > > Why a virtual provides, can't they just %ghost their log files? > > > > > > That would be the best of course, unfortunately: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#File_Dependencies > > But may be YUM/DNF can be improved in this area Right, but that's only if you need to express a file requirement. Your point above was that every package which drops a file in /var/log (e.g httpd) should have virtual-provides for them. But I don't think there's ever any reason to require the file /var/log/https/error_log On the other hand, Lennart's original mail above was about syslog implementations, not "all package, which creates log in /var/log". -- Mathieu -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
