Matthew Miller (mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) said: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:41:24AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > A) If someone is installing a program that expects this file, they can > > > also install rsyslog. > > But, at the packaging level, I think it's been demonstrated that 'a program > > that expects this file' is not something we do a good job of consistently > > expressing. That should be fixed regardless of this feature proposal, but I > > think should definitely be a required component of accepting it. > > I'm reading this to mean by adding package dependencies where missing, > right? > > This is actually Kinda Hard, because /var/log/messages is really more an > artifact of our default rsyslog config than part of any package. If we > wanted to say that some syslog service always provides that file, we should > make it clear that changing it is actually not available for end-user > configuration and should never been changed. We've never done that. > > So, adding "Requires: rsyslog" isn't _really_ sufficient. We could ship the > /var/log/messages configuration in a subpackage that goes into > /etc/rsyslog.d/ and ask packages which expect /var/log/messages to require > that. I think it's more correct for packages that expect to work on a textual /var/log/messages (or similar) to have a requirement on a meta 'syslog' package (which all three major daemons provide), even if it's implicitly depending on the default configuration of those packages, rather than the alternative of *no* dependencies that we have now. Bill -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
