Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:10:35PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> I think it's more correct for packages that expect to work on a textual
> /var/log/messages (or similar) to have a requirement on a meta 'syslog'
> package (which all three major daemons provide), even if it's implicitly
> depending on the default configuration of those packages, rather than the
> alternative of *no* dependencies that we have now.

Sounds good, but:

$ repoquery --whatprovides syslog
syslog-ng-0:3.4.1-1.fc19.x86_64
sysklogd-0:1.5-13.fc19.x86_64
rsyslog-0:7.2.6-1.fc19.x86_64
systemd-0:204-9.fc19.x86_64

$ rpm -q --changelog systemd|grep -B1 'Provide syslog'
* Tue Oct 23 2012 Lennart Poettering <lpoetter@xxxxxxxxxx> - 195-2
- Provide syslog because the journal is fine as a syslog implementation

Lennart, maybe this should be re-thought as to what "syslog" means exactly
in this context? It's true that from an application-logging-stuff point of
view systemd-jourald provides this, but maybe that's not right.

On the other hand, it looks like _only_ perl-Unix-Syslog has this as an
explicit requirement, and that wants it for the logging capability, not for
mucking with log output.


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