On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:26:48 +0200 Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 16.07.13 13:11, Frank Murphy (frankly3d@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > You do understand that this: > > > But -x is one of the good benefits. > > Giving explanation. > > and this: > > > size matters, when on 3G-internet. > > They have maybe 5-10gb p\m. depending on plan. > > are directly contradicting: you first pump up the log size with > "-x", but you actually want less data to transfer. It sounds so, but without -x, journalctl is no better than rsyslog, > You cannot have both. Classic syslog didn't have "-x", only > journalctl has. If you use it your log output becomes larger, but > you think that's bad and prefer the size of classic syslog there? > Then don't use this new feature! > > > Until such time, as there is a gui, can be installed or > > run from a live CD\DVD in rescue case > > You can invoke it easily from a livecd. Just mount the journal > directory, and invoke journalctl -D on it, and you see its contents, > nicely interleaved. explain that to my daughter, who want to drive the car, not fix it. > > > where such buttons\titles as auto-search for journal \ > > auto-search for journal? What is that supposed to be? it is for people to whom Terminal is where you get a train. Who can click a button and find it. (even young Linux users, can be point and click) My daughter is dyslexic, and blind in one eye. Explaining *.journal is beyond 55e13f347adb48f9b1089695da5080a7 is difficult at best. I know that is a personal thing, but I have to think on behalf of other similar users. > > compress journal for email, > > Hmm? You can easily compress it on your own, exactly the same as for > classic syslog. > > Lennart > Again back to my daughter. Who does not live with us. I tried explaining xarchiver :( Uncompressed logs come in fine. (I still have people asking me what a browser is, even on Win7\8) -- Regards, Frank "When in doubt PANIC!" I check for new mail app. 20min www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
