On Jul 15, 2013, at 5:11, Miroslav Suchý <msuchy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 07/15/2013 10:44 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> = Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog >> >> Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering <lennart at poettering net>, Matthew >> Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject org> >> >> No longer install a traditional syslog service by default. (Specifically, >> remove rsyslog from the @core or @standard groups in comps.) >> >> The systemd journal will be the default logging solution. Rsyslog, Syslog-NG, >> and even traditional sysklogd will continue to cover use cases outside of the >> default. > > My voice may be one of thousands, but I'm saying: I want to have traditional syslog service as default and have journal from systemd as option. I concur. I have systems that live in a heterogeneous environment and need traditional syslog. By making it optional, it will ultimately die, forcing journal as the only viable option in a Fedora environment. This is IMO not net beneficial for downstream use cases later on either. Jon. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel