On 07/15/2013 04:26 PM, Jonathan Masters wrote:
On Jul 15, 2013, at 5:11, Miroslav Suchý <msuchy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 07/15/2013 10:44 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog
Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering <lennart at poettering net>,
Matthew Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject org>
No longer install a traditional syslog service by default.
(Specifically, remove rsyslog from the @core or @standard groups
in comps.)
The systemd journal will be the default logging solution.
Rsyslog, Syslog-NG, and even traditional sysklogd will continue
to cover use cases outside of the default.
My voice may be one of thousands, but I'm saying: I want to have
traditional syslog service as default and have journal from systemd
as option.
I concur. I have systems that live in a heterogeneous environment and
need traditional syslog. By making it optional, it will ultimately
die, forcing journal as the only viable option in a Fedora
environment. This is IMO not net beneficial for downstream use cases
later on either.
Jon.
I've read though most of the email on this thread, and would just like
to put in my $.02.
I think this "System Wide Change" is 1 to 2 releases too early.
I'm not totally against it. But I live with one foot in RHEL land, and
one foot in Fedora. It takes me a while to incorporate these new
features. I need more transition time.
Just taking it out of @core instead of both would ease the transition.
Troy
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