On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:22:07 +0200 Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > but as a test do: > > echo | journalctl -x --no-pager --since-today | mailx -s "Today's > > Journal" user (real isp email ) > > What's the "echo |" supposed to do? For some reason first few emails, without it had nothing. Could be I am using rawhide on this. > Note that --no-pager is implied if you pipe the command. Did not know this. > Also note that it's --since=today, not --since-today. typo on my part. > Well, you added "-x" to the command line, so you get the message > catalogue entries added in. Don't do that, and it is going to be > smaller But -x is one of the good benefits. Giving explanation. > Also, note that it's not defined where /var/log/messages is > rotated, but "journalctl --since=today" will give you everything of > today, regardless whether rotated or not. Agreed > > So, you are comparing *very* different things. > True, But once a week my Fedora using children email me their messages, (in the believe "a stitch in time http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/a-stitch-in-time.html) size matters, when on 3G-internet. They have maybe 5-10gb p\m. depending on plan. Lot of non-sysadmin people using Fedora. Because they can do their work with it. Which may not even be in I.T. field. I am not knocking journalctl, as I stated I like it "with -x" But, believe keep rsyslog installed by default for Desktops. Until such time, as there is a gui, can be installed or run from a live CD\DVD in rescue case where such buttons\titles as auto-search for journal \ compress journal for email, I'm not against change. -- Regards, Frank "When in doubt PANIC!" I check for new mail app. 20min www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel