If phones and tablets aren't the primary focus, what is? Development boards, for the sake of running Fedora ARM on something? Server systems that don't exist yet (or aren't widely available[1])? I'm interested in Fedora on phones, tablets, tiny dongly media centers, set-top boxes, Wi-Fi routers and eBook readers. Why wasn't I allowed to have permissions to run image making on the ARM instances? I wanted to create a rootfs with gnome-shell as the default, similar to the desktop live CD, and couldn't because "it's not the focus". Why should the package maintainers carry the burden of maintaining packages that get compiled on ARM if their interests aren't "the focus"? I know I'd get yelled at if I started adding "ExcludeArch: arm" to my packages, so why is it OK for the ARM SIG to dismiss other Fedora contributors' interests, and actively block their attempts at making Fedora more available? Cheers [1]: I looked for a board/system that could be used to run GNOME's OSTree build system, and couldn't find anything with a price list. ----- Original Message ----- > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Bill Nottingham <notting@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Adam Jackson (ajax@xxxxxxxxxx) said: > >> If we really wanted to talk about graphics on arm, we'd be talking about > >> writing drivers for GPUs. > > > > Is there any use to shipping freedreno and similar projects in Fedora ARM > > before they get to the upstream kernel? (I expect a brickbat from Josh > > fairly quickly for suggesting this.) > > I've been following the tegra and lima (Mali 400) upstream work pretty > closely but neither is actually usable for gnome-shell yet to be > worth, IMO, even to be packaging it in a third party package. In he > case of the freedreno while the work is cool the qualcomm SoC is > primarily shipped on phones and tablets [1] which isn't our primary > focus so while would be cool to support I'm unsure what the user > experience would be like if we did ship it. Side note there is > upstream multi platform support for the MSM SoCs now but I have no > idea how complete this is (eg AllWinner MP support is upstream but > it's still only core SoC/serial/mmc) > > Peter > > [1] I've seen one dev board > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
