On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 06:49:10PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> That's correct and you'll find that that's what I've been doing for >> 2.5+ years now, but we're talking about Primary here... and in primary >> it's everyone's responsibility... > > That's the point. You don't get to be a primary architecture until > you've demonstrated that doing so won't slow down the other > architectures Is that "you don't get to be a primary architecture unless you have demonstrated that nobody outside of the ARM SIG needs to do any work on the architecture" == "you don't get to be a primary architecture unless it doesn't matter whether you are a primary architecture"? > and that requires you to fix all of these problems > yourself first. That's backwards. For the vast majority of Fedora packagers, ARM becoming a primary architecture primarily means that every individual package owner is supposed to fix their packages. So, in some abstract ideal case, there would be a gradual transition between an ARM SIG starting the bootstrap effort, and non-ARM package owners gradually taking care of their packages on ARM as well, with the experience and knowledge slowly spreading enough so that a switch to primary when everyone is expected to care eventually becomes a no-brainer, and the ARM SIG can significantly reduce its scope to ARM-specific tooling changes. What you are asking for is the exact opposite: that the ARM SIG temporarily expands to "own" the ARM aspect of the whole distribution until there are no ARM bugs, and then to have a "big bang" switchover to a situation when everyone is supposed to handle their own package on ARM. Mirek -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel