On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 03:50:56PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 12.02.2013 15:47, schrieb Olav Vitters: > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:37:31AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Am 11.02.2013 11:31, schrieb Olav Vitters: > >>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:59:22PM +0000, Ian Malone wrote: > >>>> In the end, more than any usability quibbles, the best reason to give > >>>> up on a project is when it refuses to listen to its end users. > >>> > >>> The GNOME release notes over various cycles have listed loads of changes > >>> which have been made based on the things that have been learned. This > >>> happened during 2.x as well as 3.x. > >>> > >>> Although you do not explicitly state it, it seems you were talking about > >>> GNOME. Vincent Untz phrased it much better than I ever could, but he > >>> basically pointed at the "Power Off". You can also read the release > >>> notes for loads of other changes > >> > >> this is all fine > >> > >> BUT why are things completly re-written and in a pre-alpha state > >> released replacing and destroying the users workload and after > >> that it takes years to fix all teh issues in the one or another way? > > > > I have a totally different view. > > > > Could you show me the bugreport about where GNOME destroyed something on > > a users machine? > > > > GNOME 3 was delayed by 2 cycles. Before that we made loads of releases > > available for testing. The 3.0 was really stable > > what are you not understanding in "destroy users workload"? > it dies not help if software runs stable if it forces the > user to completly re-learn how he used to do things > > workload = people are runnign their PC for working with it and > doing things not only play around with the OS itself Did you read my email at all? In any case: "destroy users workload" In my understanding: 1. You're really angry (aka "destroy": wtf!) 2. I have a totally different view 3. It seems you can speak on every users behalf (related to #2) Note that #2 I already quoted, aside from the things you snipped which gave IMO a friendly explanation. In any case, we can also turn this into a offlist flamewar if you want. -- Regards, Olav -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel