On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:35:56 +0100 "Nicolas Mailhot" <nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Le Ven 8 février 2013 13:22, Olav Vitters a écrit : > > On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 10:34:58AM +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote: > >> I am providing a datapoint that directly contradicts your original > >> statement, namely that there is a "completely different target > >> audience" for GNOME 2 vs GNOME 3. > >> > >> I am that datapoint. > > > > As are various others during FOSDEM (Vincent Untz asked people to > > raise their hands). No idea how representative that it. > > The FOSDEM poll was stacked — no one really wanted to hurt Vincent > Untz too much given his obvious efforts to be nice, there was this > knot of GNOME people bunched together that were a tad intimidating, > and people do not go to FOSDEM to fight. What is telling however is > the complete refusal of the audience to put systemd and Gnome 3 in > the same bucket. Lennart's efforts to explain his project, understand > sysadmin needs, provide a smooth transition and keep current usages > working clearly paid off there. > > So don't overplay the GNOME 3 FOSDEM session, it was an awkward > moment for everyone involved (and certainly not representative of the > positive energy that permeated other presentations). > To be honest, I don't think any poll will ever suffice for this topic. Nor do I think a poll is what's needed. It should simply be easier to switch to a desktop that Works For You, especially after installation, and even before if possible. That way we can keep the anti-GNOME-3 people happy as well. In the end I guess we can't get rid of the fanatical "GNOME 3 is for tablets only" meme (and others like it that I personally don't agree with), but hey, I don't mind as long as I can ignore those. But I will keep objecting to the single-sided argument that there is no "GNOME 2 user" that likes GNOME 3. I fully support those who have tried and rejected the new stuff -- as long as they don't impose their opinion on me :-) --Stijn -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel