Heya, since a while now logind has replaced CK in Fedora. I'd like to retire it entirely from the distribution now. Most deps on CK are gone. Holdouts are "cdm", "lightdm", "lxsession", "lxdm". https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life This page doesn't say anything about retiring packages other still depend on... I am tempted to just retire CK ignoring the remaining dependencies, in the hope this will put the pressure on the folks involved to update their stuff... Getting rid of CK in those packages is dead simple BTW. Just disable it in the packages, but make sure pam_systemd is in the PAM stack for your greeter tool. It's basically about removing code, not about adding new code -- adding new code is only necessary if you want to improve your DM to handle multi-seat setups, too (which is a new feature of logind, not available in CK[1]). For details, see: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/writing-display-managers I'd also like to retire "esound" finally. Currently, adplay, ayttm, dopewars, e16, gnome-libs, gnubg, lxdream, moon-buggy, spacechart, xarchon, xmms-esd still use it. esd of course has been deprecated and dead since many years, the packages which still use it really should wake up one day. So here, too, I'd just like to retire the package... Alternatively, somebody else can take these over, but honstely I'd rather see them removed than continue to bitrot in our repository... Lennart Footnotes: [1] If you are interested in adding proper multi-seat support to the DM of your choice, then we might be able to supply you with a free set of multi-seat hardware so that you can actually make it work. Ping me. -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
