Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:

On 11/12/2012 06:03 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:



On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Tomas Mraz wrote:

On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 11:37 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:


On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:29:34AM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
I think ssh has to be in the mix. Of ths systems I use/maintain/etc
very few of them are ones I actually have a reliable console to.
If ssh isn't there, I have to add it just to get the system set up.

Yeah: if we get to the point where every real install has to add the same
subset of packages to core, I don't think we've succeeded in doing
anything
except make more work for the whole world.

A cron daemon and (at least basic) MTA fall in the same area, I think.
But what about ssh-clients?

Is there a reasonable yardstick rule we can make, or is it pragmatically
best to just make per-package decisions?


so - imo

openssh-clients is required, yes - b/c w/o them scp doesn't work. :-/

Perhaps scp could be moved to the base openssh package then.


Sounds reasonable to me.

Not sure that's a good idea. "ssh" itself is also part of the clients
package and should probably moved as well then. "sftp" is probably popular
too. I think its better to bite the bullet and just include the clients
package as a whole.


i think you misunderstand.

if I  am attempting to connect to a server running sshd:

I can run

ssh servername

and that works

I can run
sftp servername
and THAT works

I cannot run
scp servername

I have to have a local scp client installed on the server for scp to work as a service.

-sv

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