Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > For example people with updates-testing enabled on fc10 got a > non-upgraded yum because the versions were the same (except for > fc10/fc11) and it stopped working because python went from 2.5 to > 2.6.... So to RPM the fc10/fc11 isn't being compared, at least not that > I can see... That yum update is now stable: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-5328 so it is now NO LONGER POSSIBLE (!!!) and WILL NEVER (!) BE POSSIBLE AGAIN (!!!) to upgrade an updated Fedora 10 to Fedora 11 using the DVD installer without breaking yum. Only a respin can help... until the next yum update in F10! Upgrades using the DVD installer are broken by design. We got lucky until now, but this time the DVD has become completely useless for upgrades, unless you like having to fetch an updated yum by hand (which, if you are a KDE user, you have to do from runlevel 3 because KDE (including KDM) is also broken after the upgrade for basically the same reason yum is - good luck with the command-line ftp! I've had my fun fixing a relative's system that way), installing it with rpm -Uvh and then running it to fix the remaining breakage (e.g. KDE). Fedora CANNOT be upgraded with a method not including updates. We really need to fix the download page not to recommend the DVD for upgrades (and I'll ping the websites team about that). I think preupgrade >= 1.1.0 is the only solution we can officially recommend. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list