----- Original Message ----- > On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 05:14:45PM +0000, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > > Since the last time, we got a default hostname of "fedora" visible on > > > > the network, for UPnP and mDNS services, the Details panel patch to > > > > show the OS version in the Settings will soon be getting upstream, so > > > > it's not nothing. > > > The details panel? Are you kidding? There were 2 things in this list. > > No, Bastien wasn't kidding, And I don't think your response will lead > > this discussion into a productive direction. > > Maybe not. I am frustrated. If you have a suggestion for a positive > direction, I would like to hear it. That's fine, we're frustrated as well. Matthias, Rishi and myself are the only people who added any information to the "Downstream Branding" page on the GNOME wiki, and nobody asked us to add anything more. The discussions usually go something with you proposing something, a lot of folks working upstream thinking it's not the best option, with more or less vehemence, and the functionality getting in anyway. > Since there has not been any progress, I have a basic suggestion that I > think we should start with. For F28, let's do what Endless OS does: > > 1. A nifty, quick boot animation with their logo and name > > 2. The logo on a panel in the corner of the screen, always visible and > always on > > This may not be perfect, It's not. It just makes things worse. It's like we never had those discussions in the past. Keep asking the same thing, and that one time when we're not looking, you'll slip this change past us. I'm pretty sure that the omni-presence of a logo isn't something that got explicitly requested by designers at Endless. Or the Ubuntu designers requesting the UI to be mostly orange. > > > I think this is a good idea, but it's hardly sufficent. I'm not sure > > > it really fits with the direction Workstation is going — I notice > > > Terminal isn't even in the default Dash. > > Have you ever met a fedora user who didn't know how to get to a terminal ? > > Honest question, you probably meet more Fedora users than me. > > I know some who rarely use it. That's probably fine for not everyone using terminals all the time, that means we're doing something right. But I'd rather we took a considered and holistic approach to branding rather than slapping logos where there's some blank space. _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx