On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 22:07 +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:55 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On 02/03/2014 08:55 PM, drago01 wrote: > >>> > >>> >The WG's dont dictate or decide how we in QA spend our time. > >> > >> Where did I say that? Where did QA decide that they now longer want to > >> test desktops? > >> You seem to always talk about the whole QA community while in fact you > >> are talking about yourself. > > > > > > I suggest you check meeting logs [...] > > Only references I found where: > "jreznik from Base WG would like to arrange a meeting with other teams > members to discuss the future processes" and > "Project-wide, planning is blocking on Fedora.next until the WGs > report to FESCo in January; this makes QA planning for Fedora 21 > mostly impossible until then" > > (Clicked through the summarys back to end of sep. 2013 ...) There is certainly a resource question for QA: it's generally reasonable to guess that the Products will want to define a minimum expected level of quality and that the project as a whole will want the primary products (that wording is a hedge against the possibility that we wind up defining lots more Products - right now I'm assuming the three currently-defined Products are 'primary' ones) to meet their minimum requirements for a Fedora release to ship. Right now we have fairly minimal requirements for the desktop and KDE spins, and almost nothing for server or 'cloud' areas of the project, so it's reasonable to assume the overall testing workload in a .next universe will be higher than it is right now, and Johann is right to say that, right now, 'QA' struggles to perform all the work that's *currently* required. So this certainly is an area of concern that will likely need to be looked at and resolved. Johann is of the opinion that the way to do this is for QA to test the base system and leave everything above that to the products, but we have not decided anything like that yet: as the summary note above says, we really can't plan much until the .next / Product proposals take more concrete form. Especially, we need to know what the Products think their minimum quality requirements will be, obviously. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
