> The Releas Notes clearly indicate that gnome-tweak-tool is available, > and how to install it in cases where specific changes are desired. > There are other tweaks that tool doesn't address, and gsettings is > useful for that larger superset. My point with all four items in the list was to show you that this is not a specific case when user will install and use gnome-tweak-tool. And mentioning gsettings doesn't help here. Because even if gsettings approach is supposed to be "officially supported", there is no way it will be actually used instead of gnome-tweak-tool. And even official docs do not suggest it as a solution for the problems I listed. > Generally it's not good idea to guess or assume things in this way > about others. I promise not to make assumptions about your intentions > or personal schedule and hope you'll do me the same courtesy. :-) I supposed that there are not so many crazy persons in the world who could spend all their time with web-surfing on some particular topic instead of doing their real job, as I did. But ok, I won't do this again. :) > Again, I don't think that gives a representative sample of where GNOME > 3's aiming. By nature we're already restricting the population to > "current Fedora users," which is a subset. It seems to me that you are pretty sure already that there is no possible ways to get the representative sample at all. Then, though I do not understand why fedoraforum.org and #fedora channel doesn't represent rather big group of Fedora users, I'd better stop discussing this matter. > I don't think shipping F15 with GNOME 3.0 is a problem -- it's a > feature and a point of pride. Sure, it's not perfect, but you could > say the same thing about GNOME 2.12 or 2.24 (random picks, I don't > have any specific beef with those releases either). For every release > there's a point where content or code has to freeze, and further > changes need to target the next release so the product can ship. I didn't mean that shipping is the problem. I wanted to say that Gnome 3 we are going to ship in F15 does have this particular problem. > I recommend working with the upstream in a constructive way to help > move 3.2 forward. I don't think you need to specifically recommend this to me, since I am already participating. I am rather happy with reaction on my bug-reporting I get in GBZ, even when bugreports I've posted appear to be false alarm or very stupid ones. But this mail I wrote here is also a part of this constructive work as I see it. There is no fighting here, I gave you the report about feedback Gnome 3 gets and I asked you to consider how this feedback could effect the Gnome 3 development and packaging. -- Best regards, Aleksandra Bookwar -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
