> Everyone working on the new GNOME 3 knows there are still some bugs, > and is working to fix them. And I would expect 3.2 to be better in > this regard. I'm not convinced a new theme is the answer to the > problem as opposed to working upstream to fix bugs. Please note, that I am talking about Fedora 15 release here, not the future plans. Yes, I am sure till the time Gnome 3.2 be ready, we will have many improvements, and themes structure will probably be rewritten completely. > Or the gsettings tool, which is included by default. That doesn't > address the root cause which is glyph coverage, because the goal is > for the environment to have a fresh, consistent look using Cantarell. Can you provide me the links to any docs which describe _officially_suppported_way_ to change fonts, that I can give to our users when they ask me how to do this? Don't you see that all the info about changing fonts now refer to gnome-tweak-tool? > Reductio ad absurdum isn't helpful. We all talk within fairly > isolated communities so personal experience isn't the most helpful > measurement. Since GNOME 3 is designed to meet a much larger > audience, I suppose measurement would have to take a representative > sample that eliminates the biases of (1) people who use IRC, mailing > lists, etc., (2) people you (or I) know, and so on. This wasn't the reductio ad absurdum. People at fedoraforum.org, linux.org.ru, #fedora IRC-chat are not some persons who live next door, and Google Search doesn't do the searching inside my neighbours only. This is a world-wide community which I am talking about. I guess you don't have much time to spend on lurking the web-resources, as I did last week (I'd say I spent the whole week in the internet so far). As almost a head of local fedora support (unofficial title yes, and local doesn't mean small here ) who tries to be in contact with all others, I have rather wide variety of opinions and I can provide you needed number of links, just ask. >> >> b) add gnome-tweaks-tool to the default @gnome-desktop group of >> >> packages, put it on Live images and so on >> >> Probably add gnome-shell user-theme extension package by default also. >> > >> > This tool should only be useful for a small subset of the people >> > expected to use GNOME 3 and Fedora 15. >> >> What measurements do you have to support this assertion? > > Please re-read the sentence. It says "should" for a reason. ;-) What > that means is, if GNOME 3 meets its design goals, a tweaking tool > shouldn't be necessary. Now, it's certainly arguable that 3.0 doesn't > quite get there, but for me at least it's gone a heck of a long way, > and I personally haven't found a reason to run gnome-tweak-tool yet. Once again, we are going to ship Fedora 15 with Gnome 3.0, not Gnome 3.2. That is the problem. And of course gnome-tweak-tool is not the best solution, but temporary working one. To spend a little bit of your time to improve it, that's all I am asking. -- Best regards, Aleksandra Bookwar -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
