[removing some subjective critique I'm not qualified to rebut, even though it seems adequately addressed by design docs I've read] On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 02:17:09PM +0200, bookwar wrote: > - icon size in Applications menu > The bug is here https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636655. > And discussion is still open. Probably needs a different bug open upstream explaining the problem, then, since the massive ellipsization problem the bug references seems to be fixed, AFAICT. [...snip...] > - fonts > Default fonts are bad for non-english speaking users, who work with > non-Latin characters. > Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=695405 still open. Fair enough, the Cantarell font is missing some glyph coverage. Why not organize a team to help extend that, since it would be more useful globally? Perhaps there's already a move afoot for this, because certainly the same can be said of Asian languages. [...snip...] > I want to emphasize that changing default settings is not an > exceptional use-case for F15 Gnome users. It is a normal thing which > will be used very often. What measurements do you have to support this assertion? [...snip...] > I suggest > > a) state that theming _is_ a feature of Gnome 3 Desktop in F15 Not only is it too late to be adding features in at this point, but it's not even established this one is needed. > b) add gnome-tweaks-tool to the default @gnome-desktop group of > packages, put it on Live images and so on > Probably add gnome-shell user-theme extension package by default also. This tool should only be useful for a small subset of the people expected to use GNOME 3 and Fedora 15. Including it by default would be confusing to the rest because they wouldn't know in what cases they'd use it. A cursory glance at the settings in that tool shows they're clearly not understandable to a large swath of people who don't spend a lot of time with operating system internals. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Red Hat Summit/JBossWorld -- Register now! http://.theredhatsummit.com -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop