Kudos to everyone's input and lots of intelligent talking points! After decades of working in enterprise, Fortune 100 or less, I always struggled as the disruptor, as the open source evangelist, trying to get decision makers to embrace open source solutions. Years later, I see that commercial linux like RedHat & SuSE make a critical mistake in packaging linux as a commodity with licensing and subscriptions. If you think about it, the most common argument against open source is always support & expertise. THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY IS......... Selling licenses and subscriptions is par for the course for IBM because they have doing that model for decades. But, many enterprise decision makers are STILL afraid of open source precisely due to perceived expertise and support. If RedHat gave away the OS and shared everything with the community and then followed up with consulting engagements and the current support engineering already in place, I think the customer base would start growing immediately. Open Source distributions are not designed to be licensed software in a box like Windows. Never the intention, ask Stallman if you know him. The money is in support and consulting. Teach the customer how to fish and they feed themselves and the footprint keeps growing! -----Original Message----- From: Simon Matter <simon.matter@xxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: CentOS mailing list <centos@xxxxxxxxxx> To: Leon Fauster <leonfauster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, CentOS mailing list <centos@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: How will fragmentation help Red Hat Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 18:42:34 +0200 > > Well, as RH's announcement is quite some day ago, I had time to > reflect > this jumble. The whole thing is much more complex than people want to > admit and I will not decompose this all here now. Honestly I see > the open source ecosystem like a hardware store. You have everything > that you need to build your own home, thats all. So, some entity is > needed to build it - a worker, consultant, hobby crafts(wo)man, > agency, > midsize firm, corporation et cetera, and that is the truth the we all > should face it. To make it clear, what product do you get when a > loosy > community build a distribution, with components of projects that are You'll get distributions like Debian, Arch or also FreeBSD and other BSDs. One thing they had in common with Red Hat distributions is that they are of high quality and one could fully trust them. Unfortunately I fail to still trust Red Hat as I did in the past. Regards, Simon _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos