Hi! Jared 07.09.01: >If the command line is so grate write me or help write me a mass market >application that cells to millions of coppies. You can't because you can't Well, make it a html-based application:-> Everybody can choose the most suitable UI. >use the g u i interface in linux like you can in windows. So you will have To be exact: you don't have to use gui in Linux:-> >to write in general smaller market programs if you wish to do that for a >job. I on the other hand because I'm not thick headed can write G U I >applications with vb or any number of other tools. As for your comment to I have so far believed that because my sighted colleagues don't have to mess with rewiew modes, guess bitmaps and remember what alt-leftcontrol-mother-in-law-space did at this mode but now i know what is my actual problem. Thanks. Seriously talking: text-based (or cli if you prefer so) apps are much easier for screen reader. I have almost same information about screen contents than my sighted colleagues. In addition i have similar user interface to enter commands; the keyboard. If you can get job in gui environment thats fine. But i personally cannot compete with sighted colleagues. i'm glad i started to explore Linux and networks at '95 instead of investing $3k into new computer (would be obsolete now), os (obsolete now) and screen reader (very obsolete now). -- Mr. Ari Moisio, Niittykatu 7, 41160 Tikkakoski, +358-40-5055239 ari.moisio@iki.fi http://www.iki.fi/arimo PGP-keyID: 0x3FAF0F05