A few months ago (before I delete my bookmarks-file ;) ), I read through the hole standard what they were plannign with gnome. Now from memory (cause I don't have time to look it up now): - full keybord access - everything build right into the libs, so that if someone uses the standard libs it's accessible immediately - even working on qt-application like netscape to work without much effort - clear interface to applications as well as screen-reader software I think GUI is a good thing if accessible enough. Certainly if you need like say Wordprefect 8 or star/open office for yoru work As soon as these aplications are accessible voa ghe GUI interface, a lot more blind people may turn to linux because now they simply cna create/read/edit there windows files. A lot of universiteis want reports in word, how isck it may be. This would even open up the use of vmware and windoz in it for linux users like us. The reason console-stuff is beeing maintained so well is becasue a lto fo sighted people do a lot in console-mode. BEcause of the fact that you have a lot more control over what you are doing and (as specially remote) wokr makes it a lot easier on bandwith and cpu-power. I think this is a great step and I hope it will work. I think everything will be GPL which makes it possible for our community to correct immortal sins like pointed out in this thread befroe (to big monopolist). FREE software not only means rhe open0source stuff, but also the freedom to chose. YOu don't have to use GUI interfaces, but it would be great if you cna choose to do it right? -- slainte mhaith (good health), slainte (cheers) Uisce Beatha (water of live/health) ----------- Andor Demarteau E-mail: ademarte@students.cs.uu.nl student computer science www: http://www.students.cs.uu.nl/~ademarte/ Utrecht University irc: see webpage for details ----------- Believe in yourself, know what you want, and make it happen!