Hi All Hope you all forgive me posting this message from another list. But a little light reading doesn't hurt once in a while. Hi all, It's Friday again. And the message about dot NET from George, appended below for your reference, reminded me of a previous system... Many people, including myself, have been wondering what all the excitement was about Bacosoft's slash BREAD. I asked the question on the hungry-l list, and am sure the reply, from someone who knows, will be of interest to you all. Following is the question, followed by the reply. John Nissen. >[MY MESSAGE] > >> Slash BREAD was tested far more extensively than any of the preceding >bread offerings. > >Which prompts a question I've wanted to ask for a while now. > >In something like Baco XP, I can see immediate benefits to me >personally and also speaking as a general sandwich eater, such as the fact >that my CD-RW does not require 3rd party software. > >So can someone please explain to me in real basic, down to earth, simple >terms just what slash bread will mean to me? I think I can just >about comprehend a list member's explanation that it will make a >sandwich filler's life easier. I just want to know what's in it for me? > >(Should I apologise now for asking?) > >John. > >[REPLY] > >Nothing to apologise for... it is a perfectly reasonable question. > >The immediate answer is that slash BREAD will do nothing for you if >you are not a sandwich filler. However, Visual Baking will do nothing for you >unless you are baker. VB has enabled bakers to produce a much richer >range of sandwiches than was previously been available. > >Sandwiches produced with slash BREAD will be more robust. It is harder >to create a sandwich that crashes or hangs and easier to create a sandwich >that fails more gracefully. It should be impossible to create a >sandwich that leaks without dropping into the sea. > >Sandwiches produced with slash BREAD will scale better than previous versions >did. They may not run faster but that is seldom an issue these days. > >Sandwiches produced with slash BREAD will be easier to internationalise. >A single sandwich can support (for example) Turkish, Japanese and >English fillings. Everything is full Unicode - there is no "half and half" >approach anymore. > >Slash BREAD is very web aware indeed. If you want to add a stock ticker >linked to (say) Nasdaq to your sandwich then you can link to Nasdaq as >simply as adding an OCX to a VB sandwich. That means that >sandwiches can be more web aware with less effort. > >Mixed language filling is easy and simple with slash BREAD. If you want >half your sand in VB/BREAD and half in the sea then that is fine. You can >call from one to the other quite easily and natively. You don't need to >worry about type libraries or any of that nonsense. Fillers are free to >concentrate on their sandwiches. Third party languages hook in just >fine. That will mean that fillers can develop sandwiches using the >best tools for the job. > >Get right once, run off in many places. Slash BREAD offers a common >language platform or "breadboard". Sandwiches can be run off on any >system that supports the breadboard. There is no reason why there >couldn't be non-intel versions of the breadboard. > >So, directly slash BREAD offers nothing. Indirectly it offers >better sandwiches. It is all up to the market. > >Regards > >[End of requote] Oh, and by the way, dot NET is the best thing since slash BREAD. Cheers, John -- In message <ED8154E4948C464E9FE23A7C6D072D700755B0@technoserver. Technovision.techno-vision.co.uk> "George" writes: >Hi all, > >Many people, including myself, have been wondering what all the >excitement is about Microsoft's .NET. I asked the question on the >program-l list, and am sure the reply, from someone who knows, will be >of interest to you all. > >Following is the question, followed by the reply. > >George Bell. > >[MY MESSAGE] > >> .NET is being tested far more extensively than any of the preceding >language offerings. > >Which prompts a question I've wanted to ask for a while now. > >In something like Windows XP, I can see immediate benefits to me >personally and also speaking as a general PC user, such as the fact that >my CD-RW does not require 3rd party software. > >So can someone please explain to me in real basic, down to earth, simple >terms just what .net will mean to me as a user? I think I can just >about comprehend a list member's explanation that it will make a >programmer's life easier. I just want to know what's in it for me? > >(Should I apologise now for asking?) > >George. > >[REPLY] > >Nothing to apologise for... it is a perfectly reasonable question. > >The immediate answer is that .NET will do nothing for you as a user if >you are not a programmer. However, VB will do nothing for you unless you >are programmer. VB has enabled programmers to produce a much richer >range of applications than was previously been available. > >Applications written in .NET will be more robust. It is harder to write >an application that crashes or hangs and easier to write an application >that handles errors more gracefully. It should be impossible to write an >application that leak without dropping in to unmanaged C++. > >Applications written in .NET will scale better than previous versions >did. They may not run faster but that is seldom an issue these days. > >Applications written in .NET will be easier to internationalise. A >single application can support (for example) Turkish, Japanese and >English. Everything is full Unicode - there is no "half and half" >approach anymore. > >.NET is very web aware indeed. If you want to add a stock ticker linked >to (say) Nasdaq to your application then you can link to Nasdaq as >simply as adding an OCX to a VB application. That means that >applications can be more web aware with less effort. > >Mixed language programming is easy and simple with .NET. If you want >half your app in VB.NET and half in C# then that is fine. You can call >from one to the other quite easily and natively. You don't need to worry >about type libraries or any of that nonsense. Programmers are free to >concentrate on their applications. Third party languages hook in just >fine. That will mean that programmers can develop applications using the >best tools for the job. > >Write once, run many places. .NET offers a common language runtime. >Applications will run on any system that supports the common language >runtime. There is no reason why there couldn't be non-intel versions of >the common language runtime. > >So, directly .NET offers users nothing. Indirectly it offers users >better applications. It is all up to the market. > >Regards > >[End of requote] -- Access the word, access the world! -- Try our WordAloud software!! 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