on java, have you followed the instructions that are provided with jaws for setting up and using java? this has little to do with web pages but much to do with applications written in java. I have successfully albiet grudgingly gotten java applications to work. also included with the jre from sun is a plugin that makes appropriately coded web pages accessible. You can find much more on this at: http://developer.java.sun.com/servlet/SessionServlet?url=http://develope r.java.sun.com/developer/earlyAccess/jaccesshelper/ which you may have to cut and paste into your web interface. you will have to register if you have never been here before but it has a wealth of information. you can get to anywhere else you need to go on the site from there and the files you need or at least that worked best for me are: j2sdk1_3_1_01-win.exe and: accessbridge-1_0_2-beta.zip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Pennick" <T.Pennick@axion.bt.co.uk> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Cc: "Tim Pennick" <T.Pennick@axion.bt.co.uk> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 6:27 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Linux desktop push could benefit disabled Hi All, I must say I found the press release about GNOME equally confusing and uninformative. I've worked on Sun kit for several years, and its great as long a you stick to the command line interface, or curses based screen applications. However, I don't think Sun can claim that much in the way of accessibility for Java as yet. I know there has been some work in this area, but the nearest I've ever come to using it, was to install the Java access classes on my PC for interfacing with JFW. This has improved my access to any aplications by exactly nothing as far as I can tell, so I'm hoping that the GNOME (which most people I've ever heard pronounce as nome) project, will be a bit more apparent in its benefits. Presumably, it will have no effect on end-user accessibility unless somebody writes a screenreader which capitalises on the accessibility features built in to the GNOME environment. Hope I'm not being too negative about this, as I'd certainly like it to succeed. However, I'm wondering if its a feature of Unix/Linux that there is a large proportion of people without sight problems who don't care much for the GUI approach, and if this explains why a lot of applications which are entirely non GUI are still maintained. If this is the case, maybe its not worth putting lots of development into GUI access for the blind on Unix flavoured operating systems. Regards, Tim Pennick _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list