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Sure, always a good thing to keep on a floppy in case something goes dead
wrong when I have no sighted help available. Would a braille display help
things at all, like that elba?
I hope I can one day have an elba 32-cell.
At 02:04 PM 12/5/01 -0500, you wrote:
>there is an unattended install for win.98.  it is a file you have to
>write but I just pressed the enter key when ever the pc stopped without
>rebooting to see if it would continue.  if it did not reboot or
>continue, I did a reset and it continued.  It is good if you can have
>someone help with this method so you don't have to go back and reset
>things but it isn't half bad.  I can dig up the unattend process if you
>like and I am sure janina can do it too.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net>
>To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 1:57 PM
>Subject: Re: Hello!
>
>
>How did you install windows without sighted help? I think this system
>almost needs a reinstall, getting registry problems that a demo of
>norton
>utils won't fix. I'm getting illegal ops with kernel32. Is there a way
>of
>doing it easy, or do you just know the install that well to tell what
>the
>sequence is? By the way I use win-98 and rh 7.1. I do have a double talk
>pc
>available, and an external dectalk express in my laptop case.
>At 11:35 AM 12/5/01 -0500, you wrote:
>>I have not been watching this thread but just tuned in and have some
>>passages I want to respond to below with responses marked with dp:
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "John G. Heim (26 2-9887)" <jheim@doit.wisc.edu>
>>To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:14 AM
>>Subject: Re: Hello!
>>
>>
>>At 04:41 PM 12/3/01 -0500, you wrote:
>>>install.
>>>May I now simply suggest that you are wrong if for no other reason
>than
>>>that I blind person will be very hard pressed to install Windows at
>all
>>>without assistance?
>>
>>I'm not sure what I said that you think this disproves. My point is
>that
>>it
>>takes more knowledge to run a linux machine than a Windows machine. I
>>never
>>said windows can be installed without sighted assistance. The original
>>questioner doesn't have a speech synthesizer so he can't install either
>>linux or windows without sighted assistance.
>>dp: it is possible to install windows without sighted assistance but
>you
>>need to know how to do it.  I am not certain that this is the case with
>>linux but would wager that if the propper planning were done and the
>>propper scripts available, it could be.
>>
>>About six months ago, I had a lightning strike at my home and lost the
>>hard
>>drive on both my Windows 95 and linux 5.2 machines. I bought 2 new hard
>>drives and got Windows millenium and red hat 7.1 from the university.
>>Since
>>I don't have a synthesizer, I needed sighted assistance for both
>>installs.
>>The linux install took a lot longer and took much more technical
>>knowledge.
>>
>>But that's okay. Of course it takes more knowledge to install linux
>than
>>windows millenium. Linux is way more powerful than windows millenium.
>>
>>dp: I take it that you mean that linux out of the box is way more
>>powerful than windows millennium or any windows system for that matter
>>and I won't take issue with that.  I would say though that again, with
>>propper nknow how, you can do anything in windows that you can do in
>>linux  I am a windows user but a linux fan by the way so I am not
>>bashing linux but want to keep the record streight.
>>
>>Windows is "easier" mailnly because doesn't do as much as linux. A good
>>example of this point is file permissions. Can you even set file
>>permissions in windows millenium? It doesn't really matter because you
>>don't need them anyway.
>>dp: you can set file permissions but not in the way you think of file
>>permissions.  you can tell windows that you want files to behave in
>>certain ways such as be hidden, system or read only files if you know
>>how to do it.
>>
>>If you're going to use linux, you probably need to learn about file
>>permissions. How hard is that? Well, for some people it might be hard.
>>
>>Comparing apples to oranges? Yes! In fact, that's partly my point.
>Linux
>>does bzillions of things windows doesn't. That's why it takes so much
>>more
>>knowledge to use. If you're going to use linux, you should be prepared
>>to
>>go through the process of acquiring that knowledge. Not everybody is
>>going
>>to want to do that.
>>dp: I'd like a list of things that windows does not do that linux does.
>>I can find a way to do them.
>>
>>Note too that my own example is rather esoteric. Most machines come
>with
>>Windows pre-installed. Even if you replace the hard drive, you can
>>usually
>>boot from the old one, install windows on the new one, and then reboot
>>from
>>the new one -- all without sighted assistance.
>>
>>dp: none the less, I have started from an oss less hd and installed
>>windows from scratch with little to no sighted assistance and no screen
>>reader.
>>
>>--
>>John G. Heim
>>WiscINFO Customer Service Coordinator
>>Division of Information Technology
>>jheim@doit.wisc.edu
>>608-262-9887
>>
>>
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