How did you install windows without sighted help? I think this system almost needs a reinstall, getting registry problems that a demo of norton utils won't fix. I'm getting illegal ops with kernel32. Is there a way of doing it easy, or do you just know the install that well to tell what the sequence is? By the way I use win-98 and rh 7.1. I do have a double talk pc available, and an external dectalk express in my laptop case. At 11:35 AM 12/5/01 -0500, you wrote: >I have not been watching this thread but just tuned in and have some >passages I want to respond to below with responses marked with dp: > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John G. Heim (26 2-9887)" <jheim@doit.wisc.edu> >To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> >Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:14 AM >Subject: Re: Hello! > > >At 04:41 PM 12/3/01 -0500, you wrote: >>install. >>May I now simply suggest that you are wrong if for no other reason than >>that I blind person will be very hard pressed to install Windows at all >>without assistance? > >I'm not sure what I said that you think this disproves. My point is that >it >takes more knowledge to run a linux machine than a Windows machine. I >never >said windows can be installed without sighted assistance. The original >questioner doesn't have a speech synthesizer so he can't install either >linux or windows without sighted assistance. >dp: it is possible to install windows without sighted assistance but you >need to know how to do it. I am not certain that this is the case with >linux but would wager that if the propper planning were done and the >propper scripts available, it could be. > >About six months ago, I had a lightning strike at my home and lost the >hard >drive on both my Windows 95 and linux 5.2 machines. I bought 2 new hard >drives and got Windows millenium and red hat 7.1 from the university. >Since >I don't have a synthesizer, I needed sighted assistance for both >installs. >The linux install took a lot longer and took much more technical >knowledge. > >But that's okay. Of course it takes more knowledge to install linux than >windows millenium. Linux is way more powerful than windows millenium. > >dp: I take it that you mean that linux out of the box is way more >powerful than windows millennium or any windows system for that matter >and I won't take issue with that. I would say though that again, with >propper nknow how, you can do anything in windows that you can do in >linux I am a windows user but a linux fan by the way so I am not >bashing linux but want to keep the record streight. > >Windows is "easier" mailnly because doesn't do as much as linux. A good >example of this point is file permissions. Can you even set file >permissions in windows millenium? It doesn't really matter because you >don't need them anyway. >dp: you can set file permissions but not in the way you think of file >permissions. you can tell windows that you want files to behave in >certain ways such as be hidden, system or read only files if you know >how to do it. > >If you're going to use linux, you probably need to learn about file >permissions. How hard is that? Well, for some people it might be hard. > >Comparing apples to oranges? Yes! In fact, that's partly my point. Linux >does bzillions of things windows doesn't. That's why it takes so much >more >knowledge to use. If you're going to use linux, you should be prepared >to >go through the process of acquiring that knowledge. Not everybody is >going >to want to do that. >dp: I'd like a list of things that windows does not do that linux does. >I can find a way to do them. > >Note too that my own example is rather esoteric. Most machines come with >Windows pre-installed. Even if you replace the hard drive, you can >usually >boot from the old one, install windows on the new one, and then reboot >from >the new one -- all without sighted assistance. > >dp: none the less, I have started from an oss less hd and installed >windows from scratch with little to no sighted assistance and no screen >reader. > >-- >John G. Heim >WiscINFO Customer Service Coordinator >Division of Information Technology >jheim@doit.wisc.edu >608-262-9887 > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >