there is an unattended install for win.98. it is a file you have to write but I just pressed the enter key when ever the pc stopped without rebooting to see if it would continue. if it did not reboot or continue, I did a reset and it continued. It is good if you can have someone help with this method so you don't have to go back and reset things but it isn't half bad. I can dig up the unattend process if you like and I am sure janina can do it too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: Re: Hello! How did you install windows without sighted help? I think this system almost needs a reinstall, getting registry problems that a demo of norton utils won't fix. I'm getting illegal ops with kernel32. Is there a way of doing it easy, or do you just know the install that well to tell what the sequence is? By the way I use win-98 and rh 7.1. I do have a double talk pc available, and an external dectalk express in my laptop case. At 11:35 AM 12/5/01 -0500, you wrote: >I have not been watching this thread but just tuned in and have some >passages I want to respond to below with responses marked with dp: > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John G. Heim (26 2-9887)" <jheim@doit.wisc.edu> >To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> >Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:14 AM >Subject: Re: Hello! > > >At 04:41 PM 12/3/01 -0500, you wrote: >>install. >>May I now simply suggest that you are wrong if for no other reason than >>that I blind person will be very hard pressed to install Windows at all >>without assistance? > >I'm not sure what I said that you think this disproves. My point is that >it >takes more knowledge to run a linux machine than a Windows machine. I >never >said windows can be installed without sighted assistance. The original >questioner doesn't have a speech synthesizer so he can't install either >linux or windows without sighted assistance. >dp: it is possible to install windows without sighted assistance but you >need to know how to do it. I am not certain that this is the case with >linux but would wager that if the propper planning were done and the >propper scripts available, it could be. > >About six months ago, I had a lightning strike at my home and lost the >hard >drive on both my Windows 95 and linux 5.2 machines. I bought 2 new hard >drives and got Windows millenium and red hat 7.1 from the university. >Since >I don't have a synthesizer, I needed sighted assistance for both >installs. >The linux install took a lot longer and took much more technical >knowledge. > >But that's okay. Of course it takes more knowledge to install linux than >windows millenium. Linux is way more powerful than windows millenium. > >dp: I take it that you mean that linux out of the box is way more >powerful than windows millennium or any windows system for that matter >and I won't take issue with that. I would say though that again, with >propper nknow how, you can do anything in windows that you can do in >linux I am a windows user but a linux fan by the way so I am not >bashing linux but want to keep the record streight. > >Windows is "easier" mailnly because doesn't do as much as linux. A good >example of this point is file permissions. Can you even set file >permissions in windows millenium? It doesn't really matter because you >don't need them anyway. >dp: you can set file permissions but not in the way you think of file >permissions. you can tell windows that you want files to behave in >certain ways such as be hidden, system or read only files if you know >how to do it. > >If you're going to use linux, you probably need to learn about file >permissions. How hard is that? Well, for some people it might be hard. > >Comparing apples to oranges? Yes! In fact, that's partly my point. Linux >does bzillions of things windows doesn't. That's why it takes so much >more >knowledge to use. If you're going to use linux, you should be prepared >to >go through the process of acquiring that knowledge. Not everybody is >going >to want to do that. >dp: I'd like a list of things that windows does not do that linux does. >I can find a way to do them. > >Note too that my own example is rather esoteric. Most machines come with >Windows pre-installed. Even if you replace the hard drive, you can >usually >boot from the old one, install windows on the new one, and then reboot >from >the new one -- all without sighted assistance. > >dp: none the less, I have started from an oss less hd and installed >windows from scratch with little to no sighted assistance and no screen >reader. > >-- >John G. 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