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Probably redhat, only linux distro that had such a version number I know of.
At 11:35 AM 12/5/01 -0500, you wrote:
>May i suggest that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing? Case in point, 
>David, ... what, pray, is linux 5.2?? There's no such thing as far as I 
>know.
>
>
> On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, David Poehlman wrote:
>
>> I have not been watching this thread but just tuned in and have some
>> passages I want to respond to below with responses marked with dp:
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John G. Heim (26 2-9887)" <jheim@doit.wisc.edu>
>> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: Hello!
>> 
>> 
>> At 04:41 PM 12/3/01 -0500, you wrote:
>> >install.
>> >May I now simply suggest that you are wrong if for no other reason than
>> >that I blind person will be very hard pressed to install Windows at all
>> >without assistance?
>> 
>> I'm not sure what I said that you think this disproves. My point is that
>> it
>> takes more knowledge to run a linux machine than a Windows machine. I
>> never
>> said windows can be installed without sighted assistance. The original
>> questioner doesn't have a speech synthesizer so he can't install either
>> linux or windows without sighted assistance.
>> dp: it is possible to install windows without sighted assistance but you
>> need to know how to do it.  I am not certain that this is the case with
>> linux but would wager that if the propper planning were done and the
>> propper scripts available, it could be.
>> 
>> About six months ago, I had a lightning strike at my home and lost the
>> hard
>> drive on both my Windows 95 and linux 5.2 machines. I bought 2 new hard
>> drives and got Windows millenium and red hat 7.1 from the university.
>> Since
>> I don't have a synthesizer, I needed sighted assistance for both
>> installs.
>> The linux install took a lot longer and took much more technical
>> knowledge.
>> 
>> But that's okay. Of course it takes more knowledge to install linux than
>> windows millenium. Linux is way more powerful than windows millenium.
>> 
>> dp: I take it that you mean that linux out of the box is way more
>> powerful than windows millennium or any windows system for that matter
>> and I won't take issue with that.  I would say though that again, with
>> propper nknow how, you can do anything in windows that you can do in
>> linux  I am a windows user but a linux fan by the way so I am not
>> bashing linux but want to keep the record streight.
>> 
>> Windows is "easier" mailnly because doesn't do as much as linux. A good
>> example of this point is file permissions. Can you even set file
>> permissions in windows millenium? It doesn't really matter because you
>> don't need them anyway.
>> dp: you can set file permissions but not in the way you think of file
>> permissions.  you can tell windows that you want files to behave in
>> certain ways such as be hidden, system or read only files if you know
>> how to do it.
>> 
>> If you're going to use linux, you probably need to learn about file
>> permissions. How hard is that? Well, for some people it might be hard.
>> 
>> Comparing apples to oranges? Yes! In fact, that's partly my point. Linux
>> does bzillions of things windows doesn't. That's why it takes so much
>> more
>> knowledge to use. If you're going to use linux, you should be prepared
>> to
>> go through the process of acquiring that knowledge. Not everybody is
>> going
>> to want to do that.
>> dp: I'd like a list of things that windows does not do that linux does.
>> I can find a way to do them.
>> 
>> Note too that my own example is rather esoteric. Most machines come with
>> Windows pre-installed. Even if you replace the hard drive, you can
>> usually
>> boot from the old one, install windows on the new one, and then reboot
>> from
>> the new one -- all without sighted assistance.
>> 
>> dp: none the less, I have started from an oss less hd and installed
>> windows from scratch with little to no sighted assistance and no screen
>> reader.
>> 
>> --
>> John G. Heim
>> WiscINFO Customer Service Coordinator
>> Division of Information Technology
>> jheim@doit.wisc.edu
>> 608-262-9887
>> 
>> 
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