not necessarily unless you have something to drive it with. a dos screen reader can help though for at least part of the install. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Hello! Sure, always a good thing to keep on a floppy in case something goes dead wrong when I have no sighted help available. Would a braille display help things at all, like that elba? I hope I can one day have an elba 32-cell. At 02:04 PM 12/5/01 -0500, you wrote: >there is an unattended install for win.98. it is a file you have to >write but I just pressed the enter key when ever the pc stopped without >rebooting to see if it would continue. if it did not reboot or >continue, I did a reset and it continued. It is good if you can have >someone help with this method so you don't have to go back and reset >things but it isn't half bad. I can dig up the unattend process if you >like and I am sure janina can do it too. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net> >To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> >Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 1:57 PM >Subject: Re: Hello! > > >How did you install windows without sighted help? I think this system >almost needs a reinstall, getting registry problems that a demo of >norton >utils won't fix. I'm getting illegal ops with kernel32. Is there a way >of >doing it easy, or do you just know the install that well to tell what >the >sequence is? By the way I use win-98 and rh 7.1. I do have a double talk >pc >available, and an external dectalk express in my laptop case. >At 11:35 AM 12/5/01 -0500, you wrote: >>I have not been watching this thread but just tuned in and have some >>passages I want to respond to below with responses marked with dp: >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "John G. Heim (26 2-9887)" <jheim@doit.wisc.edu> >>To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:14 AM >>Subject: Re: Hello! >> >> >>At 04:41 PM 12/3/01 -0500, you wrote: >>>install. >>>May I now simply suggest that you are wrong if for no other reason >than >>>that I blind person will be very hard pressed to install Windows at >all >>>without assistance? >> >>I'm not sure what I said that you think this disproves. My point is >that >>it >>takes more knowledge to run a linux machine than a Windows machine. I >>never >>said windows can be installed without sighted assistance. The original >>questioner doesn't have a speech synthesizer so he can't install either >>linux or windows without sighted assistance. >>dp: it is possible to install windows without sighted assistance but >you >>need to know how to do it. I am not certain that this is the case with >>linux but would wager that if the propper planning were done and the >>propper scripts available, it could be. >> >>About six months ago, I had a lightning strike at my home and lost the >>hard >>drive on both my Windows 95 and linux 5.2 machines. I bought 2 new hard >>drives and got Windows millenium and red hat 7.1 from the university. >>Since >>I don't have a synthesizer, I needed sighted assistance for both >>installs. >>The linux install took a lot longer and took much more technical >>knowledge. >> >>But that's okay. Of course it takes more knowledge to install linux >than >>windows millenium. Linux is way more powerful than windows millenium. >> >>dp: I take it that you mean that linux out of the box is way more >>powerful than windows millennium or any windows system for that matter >>and I won't take issue with that. I would say though that again, with >>propper nknow how, you can do anything in windows that you can do in >>linux I am a windows user but a linux fan by the way so I am not >>bashing linux but want to keep the record streight. >> >>Windows is "easier" mailnly because doesn't do as much as linux. A good >>example of this point is file permissions. Can you even set file >>permissions in windows millenium? It doesn't really matter because you >>don't need them anyway. >>dp: you can set file permissions but not in the way you think of file >>permissions. you can tell windows that you want files to behave in >>certain ways such as be hidden, system or read only files if you know >>how to do it. >> >>If you're going to use linux, you probably need to learn about file >>permissions. How hard is that? Well, for some people it might be hard. >> >>Comparing apples to oranges? Yes! In fact, that's partly my point. >Linux >>does bzillions of things windows doesn't. That's why it takes so much >>more >>knowledge to use. If you're going to use linux, you should be prepared >>to >>go through the process of acquiring that knowledge. Not everybody is >>going >>to want to do that. >>dp: I'd like a list of things that windows does not do that linux does. >>I can find a way to do them. >> >>Note too that my own example is rather esoteric. Most machines come >with >>Windows pre-installed. Even if you replace the hard drive, you can >>usually >>boot from the old one, install windows on the new one, and then reboot >>from >>the new one -- all without sighted assistance. >> >>dp: none the less, I have started from an oss less hd and installed >>windows from scratch with little to no sighted assistance and no screen >>reader. >> >>-- >>John G. 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