On Mon, 2022-04-25 at 14:50 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > You make me curious what experience in open source maintenance you > have. I got involved in the mailing lists for non-open source programs on the Amiga, that'd be in the 1990s, where some program authors were promoting user-input. We found bugs, sometimes even found the solutions. We caught cases where the programs didn't follow the specs, and pointed out what the program should be doing. And helped users figure out how to do what they wanted. Not that much different than this list. On the YAM list (yet another mailer, a freeware email program) things went rather well nearly all the time. I did get told off for calling some a dickhead once, the person telling me off said they weren't saying he wasn't, but don't call him that. Others said there was a surprising lack of swearing, considering I'm Australian. That was mostly over off-topic discussions, anyway. I don't recall there being any of "this program does dumb things" flamefests. On the Miami list (a TCP/IP stack), the programmer was more headstrong, but about the only headbutting I remember was, from time to time, some people suggesting the config files should be plain text so they could be user-edited, and the programmer saying no the program should write all its own configuration riles (so you can't set up mutually-exclusive options, for instance - it just would let you do so). The IBrowse list (web browser) suffered from repeatedly AWOL programmer, with some go-betweens that could occasionally contact them, and it being near abandonware for its whole existence. There's still people working on it, despite it being over a decade out of touch with the modern web (no Java, basic JavaScripting, no CSS). It's slightly more graphical than Lynx, still in the realms of the very early graphical web browsers. There was probably a tiny bit of argy bargy from people expecting free software (though it wasn't expensive). But overall, one thing we rarely had to contend with was programmers foisting unwanted features on us, nor removing wanted features. And it was rather rare that users made dopey feature requests. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.62.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Apr 5 16:57:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure