On Fri, 22 Apr 2022, Jerry James wrote:
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:24 AM Michael Hennebry
<hennebry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Does making fun of *code* violate either?
Maybe, maybe not. But it doesn't do any good either. Are you aware
of a single instance of somebody making fun of code, and the author of
said code then saying, "Oh, now that you have made fun of my code, I
see that I didn't think things through?" It doesn't happen. Making
fun of a person's creations makes that person defensive, and less
tractable than they might have been at first. It is
counterproductive.
I also know of no technical argument on the
fedora forum that persuaded fedora's authors.
Perhaps you do.
Whether the decision under discussion was made for technical
reasons depends on how broadly one defines technical reasons.
In the current thread, an implicit assumption seems to be that its
authors are immune to rational argument, technical or otherwise.
A more likely benefit might occur when
the time comes for another such decision.
Make it easy to customize or routinely
destroy a user's attempt at customization?
In the case at hand, destruction was chosen.
We primates have a distinct tendency to descend into warring tribes of
poop-slinging chimpanzees. Many organizations have codified standards
of professional behavior for precisely this reason. Once the
poop-slinging starts, forward progress comes to a rapid halt.
Those who are unhappy with a technical product have a choice. Either
(1) whine endlessly about it, which will change nothing; or (2) figure
out how to persuade somebody to change things. The latter requires
making a technical argument. List the disadvantages of the current
approach. Outline an alternate approach that does not have those
disadvantages. Be frank about the disadvantages of the alternate
approach. Approach the person or people with decision-making power
and persuade them that your alternate approach deserves a hard look.
Offer to help implement the alternate approach.
Presenting the alternative has already been done:
Delete the offending code.
Persuading people takes work. Mocking not only doesn't persuade, it
does the opposite.
Persuading people is sometimes impossible.
Sometimes the best one can do is try to keep it from getting worse.
One way to get rid of smoking would be for non-smokers
to make a collective decision to make fun of smokers.
My guess is that it would greatly reduce
the number of children who take up the habit.
I expect it would also have the effect of
sacrificing rather a lot of adult smokers,
not to mention children who are already smoking.
BTW as a vocabulary choice,
I'd put whining in the same category as infested.
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