On 01/31/2013 04:44 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 01/27/2013 06:15 PM, Lailah wrote:
El vie, 25-01-2013 a las 22:40 +0100, Frantisek Hanzlik escribió:
Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 01/25/2013 12:46 PM, James Freer wrote:
>> LOL - good reply! I must admit i do get fed up with the twin names. In
>> the Precise version... it was very much IMprecise. Just too many bugs
>> now to be worth using.
>
> It often seems to me that they're too concerned about making their names
> cute for my taste, but I don't use it myself and keep my opinion to
> myself for the most. Now, alas, it's beginning to look like Fedora's
> going down that path instead of marketing itself as a serious distro for
> people who are more interested in how it works than in what it's called.
> Alas, from what I can see, unless I'm active as a Fedora dev (My
> programming skills rusted away decades ago.) the only input I have to the
> process is making suggestions. None of us "mere users" have a vote.
Trend which I see in my Linux "neighbourhood" is quite transparent -
people switch from Fedora elsewhere: some of them to Centos, others
to different distro, some leave Linux entirely. Perhaps nobody now
is using Gnome3.
This matches with what I observe here. On my home network/personal
machines, my way to survive was to switch my home-server to CentOS and
to resort to Xfce as DE on Fedora clients.
I myself was not afraid install Fedora at production workstations and
servers, even in their beta phase - but it ended with F12-F13 (F14 was
still good distro, but in beta phase there was unworkable systemd; in
final release was upstart). And now I install Fedora not before several
weeks after final releas - and for testing purposes only.
Well, is curious... I see the opposite situation. People from other
distros (especially Ubuntu) dropping into Fedora. May be a
geographic difference?
I'd guess, it's people being dissatisfied with what they are used to,
now being on a "quest for the better".
That said, from what I've heard and read, Ubuntu is in a similar
crisis as Fedora. What is Gnome3 in Fedora seems to be Unity in Ubuntu
(users turning away), what's the anaconda-disaster in F18 seems to be a
general stability in Ubuntu 12.10.
I'm pretty much stuck for the moment until I know 18
is a little more stable...as for people "jumping ship" even though a few
of the releases might have had a lot of bugs...I don't think I'll be
leaving Fedora just yet...LoL! I will wait to see if things smooth out
by like...19...maybe 20....
My 2 cents ... stability-wise, from what I've experienced so far, F17
and F18 currently seem on par. Also, yum-upgrading existing F17
installations to F18 went without many problems for me.
However, installing F18 probably is a completely different matters ;)
Ralf
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