Dear friends, By now, it is clear that F18 has not quite matched up to expectations. The main problem appears to be the installer. Several people here have expressed their intent to stick to F17 and give F18 a miss. While there is always a small proportion that appear to say this every time a new release is put out, there is a larger issue here for Fedora itself: several of us can not update because fedup or even fedora-upgrade does not work (and some of us do not want to try this out because failing would mean dealing with the installer or going back to F17). However, Fedora needs to have people try out the distribution to work through kinks in all the packages, otherwise F19 will be equally bad if not worse. But without installing F18, there is no way out to this problem. Therefore, I would like to suggest that Fedora put this current installer (F18) in abeyance and re-roll the release using the old installer while the new one is fixed for F19 (after responding to the feedback generated thus far). I am not sure how an update to the installer in F18 will help since an install is needed for an update and once updated, there is no need for the installer. The main benefit to Fedora for such an approach will be that all the other features introduced in F18 can be tried and evaluated. Best wishes, Ranjan -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on receipt. For those needing to send personal or professional e-mail, please use appropriate addresses. ____________________________________________________________ FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org