On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 6:34 PM Mark Wielaard <mark@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Although I don't like the advice I am interested when such license > notices can be removed. That would make some discussions about whether > or not to include extra tags/expressions easier (if it is possible to > just remove the notice, then it also doesn't need to be mentioned in a > license tag/expression). > > It was my understanding that legal notices can never be removed, > because most licenses actually say you may not remove them, but that > might be chicken-egg reasoning :) It's not chicken-egg reasoning. It's correct that most free software licenses require notices not to be removed (assuming they're actual licenses in a given case of course). But with some free software licenses, there is no such requirement. However, you say: "if it is possible to just remove the notice, then it also doesn't need to be mentioned in a license tag/expression". I have suggested this sort of approach. This would eliminate all use of `LicenseRef-Fedora-Public-Domain` and `LicenseRef-Fedora-UltraPermissive` umbrella identifiers from License tags (note, it would not justify eliminating these identifiers from Fedora License Data or ending the attempt to catalogue licenses in these categories). But my Fedora Legal team colleagues seemed to dislike this suggestion. I think we should continue to consider it. Also if we adopted this approach, there's the difficult question of what to do about CC0, which has no notice preservation requirement of course, but which has something "wrong" with it (the clause about no patent licenses) which I think may be a good reason to include CC0-1.0 in License tags, at least in those cases where CC0 is applied to code. Richard -- _______________________________________________ legal mailing list -- legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to legal-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue